EP. 29: Actor kevin sorbo - podcast transcript

Brad Cooper (00:03):

This is Brad Cooper with Purpose Nation, continuing with a bit of a two-part interview, if you will. Hope you got to catch our first episode where we talked to Dr. John Lennox about his life and his new movie coming out Against the Tide. We're excited about this movie. It's rare to see a feature-length film that deals with Christian faith and science, and so really excited about it. And, it's primarily about Dr. Lennox and his work, but also some of his key ideas in defending the Christian faith. So today we're continuing on that theme and talking to the host of Against the Tide and you probably know him from TV shows like Hercules and Andromeda and films like God's Not Dead and Let There Be Light...Actor, Producer, Director, Kevin Sorbo. Kevin, welcome to the Purpose Nation Podcast.

Kevin Sorbo (00:48):

Good to be here. Thanks a lot for having me on. I'm glad you talked to John already cause he knows a lot more about this than I do. So it was a, I'm just, I'm just sort of a, a mirrored little guide in the movie, but John's the star of this thing. He's incredible.

Brad Cooper (01:02):

Well, yeah, we had a great conversation. You also were a great host because I think, you know, for our audience, you know, our audience is also not necessarily people who are super science-savvy, I should say. So, uh, it was great to have your point of view and ask some of the questions that you asked. So it's a great film. We're really excited about it. Hope everybody gets out a chance to see it. My wife's a big fan by the way. She's a bigger fan of Bradley Cooper though.

Kevin Sorbo (01:30):

Hahaha! Why not?

Brad Cooper (01:31):

So, but yeah, the actor...not me.

Kevin Sorbo (01:34):

I know what you’re talking about...

Brad Cooper (01:35):

Hahaha...But you know, Hey, if you ever need a costar and you want Bradley Cooper to be in one of your films, let me know, you know, where I am.

Kevin Sorbo (01:45):

I love the outtake they did in uh, Deadpool. Um, I guess he ad-libbed a lot of lines and he threw one. He wanted me threw my name into it. So I thought that was

Brad Cooper (01:55):

So you've already sort of co-starred with Bradley Cooper, but anyway...

Kevin Sorbo (01:59):

In a way, yes...

Kevin Sorbo (01:59):

If you ever needed to co-star let me know. Um, I would need top billing, of course, you know,

Kevin Sorbo (02:02):

Of course!

Kevin Sorbo (02:03):

Uh, the handsome guy in the film would be me, so we joke a lot on the Purpose Nation Podcast. Anyway, first of all, tell me about Against the Tide. I think it's just, I think it just finished up with our soon finishing up with the theatrical run. It's available, I think for like groups in churches and things like that to stream it. But how did that come about? How did it, how did a Hollywood actor, uh, come, come about and, and get involved with this film?

Kevin Sorbo (02:29):

Well, I think it was born out of the movie. God's Not Dead, which you already mentioned earlier because you know, the atheist professor Radison that I play in that movie tormenting that, that poor college student for not writing down God is dead on his, on his paper. Um, he brings up John Lennox's quotes in the movie. So, um, I think that's just sort of rip this all led. In fact, I know this is where it led to, you know, Stephen Huff who finance, the second producer, got a hold of me and we, um, piece it all together. And we ended up shooting three weeks in Oxford together and two weeks in Israel and, uh, uh, it was an amazing journey. I think of anything that was also serves as a wonderful travel documentary. I mean, people go visit Israel and go visit Oxford England.

Kevin Sorbo (03:10):

I mean, people have no, I had no idea. There were that many universities, all crunched in there together. And it's just, there's a Kodak moment, every turn, you know, you go to, but, uh, that's really how it really came about. And it was, for me, it was interesting. I look at, I look at this, this documentary as sort of like, I call it apologetics for dummies like me, and this is a place where people can really get those bullet points that you need to defend your faith. And, and John Lennox is amazing. I sort of play the antagonist in it. I play sort of the guy and it's not a mean way, but I play the guy that there may be the agnostics and atheists might ask questions of this. Hey come on. Really? How do you believe this? And John is just incredible. I mean, if you look at his debates, you've been online against Dawkins and Singer and Hitchins, he destroys these guys with being humble, being funny. Uh, he's got a Winnie the Pooh voice and he was just such a really cool, classy guy and you can't help, but fall in love with him.

Brad Cooper (04:13):

That's great. And so what was your exposure, would you say to like science and some of these issues, prior to the film, how was that for you to come into this? Maybe not necessarily being the science guy. I mean, was it intimidating? Did you have questions coming in?

Kevin Sorbo (04:27):

Yeah, it was intimidating. You know, a lot of the questions we obviously we wouldn't just go in there cold, but I mean, there's places in their widest ad-libs something and John was take over from there, but I just, um, for me, I've always found it interesting when people that are non-believers, they don't believe in the Bible, the Bible's a myth or they're atheist agnostics. Whether it be, they just say, well, science proves God doesn't exist. And I go, well, how does it prove? And they just put, they just love it's it's science, you know, there's never really anything there behind it. This is a type of movie, a documentary. Everybody should watch it because you don't have to be a believer to watch this. It's very educational. I think people will find it very interesting. And like I said, that the places we go to, the place that we get the visit are, uh, are just they're they're breathtaking. And you know, I say we went to Israel, we just walked in the footsteps of Jesus. And whether you want to believe in God or not, the reality is even atheists, um, that are students of history. They don't deny that Jesus did not exist. They know there was a guy named Jesus that was out there. So, um, that's a good start for the atheists to at least at least, uh, I accept that and go to a place in the world that has so much history. It was just, it was pretty cool for me. I went back six months later with my family. We took a group of people where there's 50 people and saw it again during the summertime we were there in the winter and it was, it was cooler and rainy, but it wasn't, it wasn't still nice. And with John, but the things I got to see that normal tourists don't get to see because we're filming his documentary was pretty cool. So I got to go to places that most people don't get to see.

Brad Cooper (06:12):

That's neat. And yeah, it was beautiful cinematography. That's what I loved about it. And all the different places that you went to. Um, and we actually, we asked a Dr. Lennox is what, what do we know about Kevin Sorbo that he learned? He said, well, probably all of your fans know all about you already. So not much more to know, but he also said, you know, you're great Christian Guy and kind of standing up and making a stand. So he had lots of good things to say. What might we not know about Dr. Lennox? We see a lot of them in his debates and things like that and you mentioned a few things, but what's one of the things maybe you learned that you were surprised to learn about him?

Kevin Sorbo (06:46):

Oh, I wasn’t surprised by it or anything, but there's a couple of things. I mean, number one, his sense of humor was great. I didn't know what to expect from a Oxford math professor to hold like five doctorates or whatever he has and speaks all these languages. But he's just got such a humble way about them and, but a very funny way about them. And I, you know, whenever I do any part, really with from Hercules on, I always want to infuse as much humor as we can in there, because that, to me, that's just, uh, laughter is the best medicine. And that's just a, I love having it in there. But, uh, when he was a kid, um, his dad wouldn't give him a TV, but he got him this microscope. Oh no you he got him a radio, an old ham radio. And he learned to speak Russian by, by talking to people in Russia off that radio. I thought that was pretty cool. What a way to, you know, his dad was already a step ahead of most dads in today's world because, you know, our kids just run off and play X-Box and we all probably watched way too much TV. So, uh, I thought that was pretty neat way to have a, to sort of in a subtle way force a good education on your child. And that's what his father did with John.

Brad Cooper (07:49):

Yeah. I almost wish we could do that today. Take away the I-phones and give some kids some hand radio and learn some learn some foreign languages. Yeah. That's neat as well. And a little bit of that in the movie as well. There were some parallels, I think, though, between you and Dr. Lennox, it seemed to me, you know, he's against the tide in kind of the math and science and philosophy area. You've been, I think, against the tide in Hollywood. When did that start for you? Has it kind of been from the beginning or, you know, walk me through a little bit kind of your, your journey and as an actor and a producer in Hollywood, and when did that start to kick up for you?

Kevin Sorbo (08:26):

Well, you know, if you're a Christian and a conservative in Hollywood, I always joke. It's like being a double leper. I mean, really, you got it. Things are stacked against you in a lot of ways. And yeah, I mean, I became more vocal probably about 10, 11 years ago. It's not that never hid from it. I mean, I didn't hide the fact that I was conservative in Hollywood. There's a lot of conservatives in Hollywood in both sides of camera and they hide from it because it's a death blow to your career. It really is. And when I became more about it, my manager and agent for many years have said we can't get to the doors anymore. So we gotta let you go. And I thought, this is the industry that screams for tolerance. You know, they tell us to be tolerant of whatever their ideology may be.

Kevin Sorbo (09:10):

And yet it's a one way street, even freedom of speech. You know, they scream for freedom of speech and we should be able to say this and movies and that movies. But if we say something that's different, that's another way to get, uh, get attacked. And I just find that incredibly sad, you know, because I don't hold, I don't harbor that anger that you see out there right now, and this angry world we live in is the divisiveness and divide and hatred that we see. And, um, if somebody has a different point of view or a different religion, or non-religion wherever it may be to have a discussion about it. I'm fine with that. I'm a live and let live guy that way. But I get painted out as the, you know, the really horrible guy within Hollywood because wow, I have a belief in God and I happen to be a conservative.

Kevin Sorbo (09:49):

And I believe that, you know, our country, our country was founded on Judeo-Christian values. Our Bible and our laws are coming from the Bible, you know, for crying out loud. So here, we got to deal with that. If it wasn't for independent movies, I wouldn't have a career. So a little over 10 years ago, my first faith-based movie was What If… which I've shot over 60 movies in my life. And that's probably in my top three. I like it better than God's Not Dead. I mean, I can say that without hurting the people that God's not dead, because it's the same company, PureFlix, and it's the same writers that did God's Not Dead, but What If… in my book is a better movie, but PureFlix just didn't do the best job in promoting. And it's hard to promote small, independent movies when Hollywood does $300 million budget movies like Avengers and Pirates of the Caribbean, and then they have a hundred million dollars to promote it.

Kevin Sorbo (10:36):

You see it on every football game and every basketball game, the trailers. And, uh, we have to compete against that. So how do we get really good movies out there? Cause you know, you mentioned my other movie Let There Be Light. These are good movies and they have high production value because that's the cameras we got today. You know, they'd go down a place obviously as technology gets easier and easier. So we did really good movies with good storylines and characters that people can relate to, but how do we get it out there without getting behind it without getting strong word of mouth? That's what we got to rely on. You know, and it's frustrating that we got to have that fight to get good movies out there because politics is downstream from culture who wants to culture? Hollywood does mainstream media does. And look how that's going to affecting the generations, the younger generations right now. I mean, it's pretty obvious what's going on in our country.

Brad Cooper (11:27):

That's right. And you mentioned PureFlix and I believe you might've been an investor or I know you've been involved with them. I think I just saw the news didn't they just get purchased by Sony?Is that encouraging, is that scary?

Kevin Sorbo (11:39):

I haven't done a movie with those guys since God's Not Dead. You're can ask them why. I don't know why. I think God's Not Dead was pretty good considering that made more money for them than all their movies combined, but they never use me again. Oh, well, sore spot a little bit. But, um, we shot that movie. It's already shot at eight years ago, came on theaters six years.

Brad Cooper (11:59):

Well just in terms of the, you know, what it means for Christian film? I mean, it seems like, you know, there's different, studios that are kind of investing. So it seems like there's a little bit of progress.

Kevin Sorbo (12:09):

Oh, there's no question. There's no question. I think faith-based movies are on the upswing. I hate saying faith-based. I want to say family, family friendly movies, because I faith-based has a thing about, I mean, atheism is a faith, right? It's a pretty strong faith. Not to believe in anything. That's pretty incredible. But, um, uh, no, I read recently cause I know they filed for a non-profit about a year ago and now they're, I, I think that Sony, has bought them up Rich Poloso's company, Sony Affirm. So I don't know what the next step is with those guys. I mean, I've dealt with Rich through the years. I shot a movie with him called Soul Surfer, uh, the Bethany Hamilton story and the Kendrick Brothers and also the Erwin brothers now moved to Nashville,. They're both opened a studio there. So there's a lot of stuff going on. My wife and I just kicked off the Sorbo Family Film Studios. So we're hoping to get the ball rolling on that pretty soon as well.

Brad Cooper (12:58):

That's great. And you have a couple of other projects. So, so with all of these times, I think the film, you know, shooting at least is slowed down a little bit. And even new releases theatrical releases based on the conditions we're in, but it sounds like you've been keeping busy still that you still have a lot of stuff coming out. What are, what are a couple of projects that you have coming?

Kevin Sorbo (13:15):

Well, I'm very proud I got the number one Christian movie streaming on Amazon right now. It's another documentary called Before the Wrath. It's on the Book of Revelation. I hope people check it out. It's Brent Miller's company. It's doing incredibly well. And like I said, it's still the number one streaming Christian movie, and it's on the Book of Revelation. Please check it out. It's fascinating. My movie Let There Be Light is still streaming on Amazon doing very well. I've got another movie that I direct could Call Miracle In East Texas, which will be on next year. It was going to be out this summer, but COVID killed all the movie theaters. So, true story set in 1930. We've been at ten film festivals with it. It's done very, very well. It's won everything from Best Faith-Based Movie to Best Romantic Comedy and everything in between.

Kevin Sorbo (13:58):

So they can't really pigeonhole it, which I like. John Ratzenberger is in it with me. Lou Gossett, Jr., Tyler Mane, my wife, Sam Sorbo is in it. She's amazing in it. Wonderful, wonderful movie that will be out probably around may or June next year. Now the movie called One Nation Under God which will be out next year. That deals with putting that phrase back in our pledge of allegiance. I have rumors I might rush to get out in December, but I don't have all the details yet on that one. And then I have another one called The Mustard Seed. And I think they're changing the title to The Girl Who Believed In Miracles. And I shot that with Mira Sorvino, Peter Coyote. And, it's a wonderful story about this little girl who can perform these little miracles and one starts to happen after the other. And people start waking up to who is this girl and what's going on. So it's a very touching, heartbreaking, inspiring movie. And, uh, I just finished eight of a new half-hour comedy called The Pot Wins. It's a, it's a sit-com, that'll be on probably starting on February as well. So if you're a fan of Tim Allen's Last Man Standing, you'll like The Pot Wins.

Brad Cooper (15:02):

It definitely sounds like you've been a definitely been busy here. So, uh, this hasn't, uh, hasn't kept you down. And then another one Faith Under Fire, I think is another one that I heard is that this week?

Kevin Sorbo (15:11):

Based on what heard that one, we got a very minimal on the theaters. I heard it's down to just a handful of theaters. So we're, we're definitely get it up streaming as quick as we can. It's a star. I played a doctor and Dean Cain's in it, plays a pastor, but it's really, the story is about a fireman who has just lost his wife to cancer and his daughter's very ill as well. I'm the doctor trying to save her life. And it deals, you know, the obviously faith under fire sort of a play on the words that he's a fireman, but now his faith is under fire. He's reached a wall of fire and how's he gotta deal with this with his own faith because a lot of people say they have faith. A lot of times you don't really need faith until something happens and you realize, wow, okay, now I do really need it. And, uh, you know, it's, uh, it's that testing of our faith and we all go through it.

Brad Cooper (15:56):

That's great. And I think Dean Cain's probably a similar kind of guy, right? Where he's, I think he's a Christian, uh, kind of against the tide with you, in Hollywood and you know, along with Dr. Lennox there standing against the tide, I guess, in the science world. Uh, so at Purpose Nation, one of the things we were excited about is just trying to help more Christians become interested in science and pursue careers. You know, we need more, Dr. Lennoxs out there in the world. And as he said in the movie, I think it's the very last line in the movie or his last one of his last lines of the movie. He said something about that's what his goal is to get more Christians, not only using it to defend the faith, but to be on the offensive, you know, why being on the defensive, why not be on the offensive and go out there and discover cures for diseases and use science and technology, you know, for God's purposes.

Kevin Sorbo (16:43):

Well, I know John is writing a book now off, based off the movie pre his previous book that just came on the last two years or so is another really good, um, uh, bullet point on how to defend your faith. And so they, they don't go online and look for that book. I mean, he's, he said the guy, um, he's very bright, but I think he dumbs it down for people like me that will appreciate the fact he makes it sort of like the cliff note version of apologetics.

Brad Cooper (17:11):

Right. Well, and you know, so one of the things, if we talk about faith based films, or even family films, to some extent, you know, for our family, one of the things we enjoy is science fiction, uh, and you know, things that kind of more cerebral, you know, things like, you know, Interstellar or you think of, you know, some of those types of films. Um, so in the, in the faith-based space, how do we get more films like that? How do we get, I use, uh, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade as an example where it's an action adventure, great big budget, obviously movie, but it has a lot of faith that he watched that film has a lot of very faith, strong faith based elements in that without having to have a big budget, can we do more of those types of films? You know, cause in the Christian faith-based, you get a lot of, you know, biopics and you know, so it's kind of a little bit of a standard fare, but for me, you know, I'm kind of the action adventure, scifi guy and Andromeda too, you know, kind of thing.

Brad Cooper (18:03):

So can we do more of those? Because that may be, we'll get people excited about science and technology.

Kevin Sorbo (18:10):

Yeah, once again it comes down to money. I do movies in the $3-$5 million range. That sounds like a lots of people watching this right now. It's not. Come on guys. You know how big these budgets are in Hollywood, these $300 million movies. So we got to compete against those. And I do movies that have a much better chance of getting their money back too. I mean, every movie I've been in has made their money to investors. So, um, our biggest problem is finding that investors, every time I got a movie funded that I directed or produced and started, um, it was always a God thing. Uh, Let There Be Light, Sean Hannity calls me out of the blue and I've been on Fox before. And he said, “Hey, I love that movie God's Not Dead and Soul Surfers.”

Kevin Sorbo (18:46):

He said, "You have something I like?" and I said, I do. We pitched them. He wrote a check right there and then. I'm at a speaking event, um, a conservative Christian speaking event in Palm Springs out in California, we did a Q & A afterwards. I talked about somebody asked about how tough it is to raise money. I'm signing one of my books afterwards. And this guy waits in line gets that to me. I got this much money. Can you make a movie? We made, we made Miracle In East Texas. That'll be out this summer. So I wish it would happen every year, not every other year. Cause I've got, I've got like amazing scripts, very good family scripts. But once again, how do we raise $3, $4 million for it? It's frustrating that I meet very wealthy Christian guys and they'll spend $9 million on some guy running for office that doesn't get elected. I'm going, I could have made three movies with that. There'll be out there forever influencing people in a positive way, not a negative voice. So, um, it's just part of the battle we got to go through. I keep praying that we get these things funded, but it's, it's tough. It's not an easy road, but, uh, I've got the good scripts. I'll tell ya.

Brad Cooper (19:49):

In your travels, in talking to Christians in the film business, you know, some of the people you work with an independent film and just Christians in general. And do you find people kind of have this picture of professors that are kind of like your character in, God's Not Dead? I mean do you think that'll change a little bit and maybe is that part of the goal is to say, Hey, there are scientists who are very good scientists or mathematicians, but they're all very, also very strong Christians. So is there a a bit of a perception, would you say in the Christian world that science and technology is something to be feared? Professors who teach it or something to be feared? I mean, what's your perception of that? Is it changing?

Kevin Sorbo (20:26):

Well, I think a university perception, a professor is something to be feared. When I do speak at events and I say, I, I tell a joke. I started by saying joke, an atheist college professor… Oh, wait, I'm sorry. That's redundant. A college professor… So cause we it's, it's out there. I mean, you look at, God's Not Dead. I think they showed 25 or 30 court cases of students that end up suing their university because they got failed or kicked out of the university or kicked out of class. But just because they had a faith in God and you see it going on right now. And the last couple of generations, I mean the last, I would say the last 25, 30 years of kids going through all the school systems, there's been a brainwash in our public education system.

Kevin Sorbo (21:08): It's very, very sad. When I was going through school, high school, college, I never had professors saying don't believe in God, vote this way. I never had that. If I went to my math class, it was math. I went to a business class, it was business. So there's a weird thing going on in our country right now. And it's just sad to see the change in perception of young kids lives and how they're, how they're, um, uh, you know, for lack of a better term brainwashed into believing the way they believe right now. I think there's the uneducational level. There's the ignorance level and we stopped teaching history. We're not teaching, we took the Bibles out of the schools back in the sixties, right? But we give Bibles to prisoners. So kind of weird. I don't know. It's something else, what's going on here?

Brad Cooper (21:46):

Yeah, it is interesting times. Thankfully though we have dozens, if not more hundreds of folks who are strong Christians, uh, who out there teacher like Dr. Lennox, we just, we just need more of them because we need, I mean, the technology that you and I are talking on right. Were invented by engineers and programmers. Cures for diseases you go to the doctor, right? And they're going to give you something or you're gonna hopefully gonna get cured from whatever you have. All kinds of things that we all rely on every day designed by engineers and science, scientists, and mathematicians kind of like Dr. Lennox. And if we retreat from it, we're even worse off. So that's our goal is to hopefully encourage more Dr. Lennox is out there to not be afraid. Probably you'd agree not to be afraid of those professors that you've played on film that are definitely out there. But that is, if that's a calling, we hope that people will still go forward and you know, use Dr. Lennox as a model. So as somebody in Hollywood, if there's a young person who's thinking about making films, either acting or directing or producing films, you talked a little bit about the industry and how, where we're at right now, but what would you recommend to them?

Kevin Sorbo (22:54):

As corny as it sounds, just follow your dreams. That's what I did. I'm from a little town of Minnesota, 7,000 people. I got want to be an actor since I was 11. I got in my car after college and I just drove out there. I went after it. Um, a lot of doors slammed on my face, a lot of rejection, a lot of, a lot of failure, but that's part of life you learn from failures. I mean, I used to caddy at this private country club through high school and college and all these guys are wealthy guys. I didn't grow up. My dad was a school teacher. You know, we had five kids. I'm the fourth of five kids, but my dad always instilled hard work in all of us. And so when I would caddy for these guys, I said, “How did you get to where you are?”

Kevin Sorbo (23:29):

And they all said, “Well, I failed Kevin. And then I failed and I failed some more than I failed again.” And these are the guys that put in those 80 to 100 hour weeks, all to their twenties until they got their thirties. That's when success kicked in. A lot of people give up too easily, you know, stop setting your limitations or let someone else set your limitations. It's going to be tough, but go out there, stick to your guns. If you want to be in the business, on either side of the camera, it's one of the few industries that people want to be in. I don't see people, but yeah, I just sort of fell into acting. It doesn't happen that way, you know. I mean, people want to be in this industry more than probably any other business out there. So, um, just, just stick with it and stick to your principles. I've turned down roles because I was uncomfortable. I say, I'm not interested in new and that for whatever those personal reasons may have been. But like I said, I've shot over 60 movies. There's probably a dozen I wish I didn't do. You don't know they're all going to be stinkers, but sometimes that's what happens, but, uh, you just gotta stick with it and not give up.

Brad Cooper (24:24):

Again, I'm talking with Kevin Sorbo about his new movie Against the Tide. It's a great film. It was just in theaters, but if you missed it, don't worry. There's still other opportunities to go see it. You can go to our web page and our blog post page, and you can find out there's a way to, to see it in a church or something like that. So it definitely still ways to see it. And then later on in DVD and streaming and all those other kinds of things, and also some of the other movies that Kevin mentioned, we're going to have on our page and so please. And his projects, he has coming up, uh, lots of opportunities to see some great work, uh, coming out. So, um, any, any other filming coming up or what's going on in terms of production?

Kevin Sorbo (25:00):

I do. I'm about to leave for Oklahoma here. I'm filming the Reagan movie, Dennis Quaid is playing Reagan, I'm playing as a pastor and that probably won't be out till, I guess, next summer or next fall. And then I just was talking about that God thing, we just got funded for the next Left Behind movie. So I'll be directing it and doing the lead role in I'll take over the role that Nicholas Cage played in the previous ones. So we're looking forward to that. We're probably gonna film it either in Georgia or Alabama.

Brad Cooper (25:30):

Neat! Those are great. And, uh, definitely looking forward to the, it sounds like a great project with the Reagan movie, can’t wait to see that. So, so very good talking to you. Thanks so much, just wish you the best in all of the projects that you're working on. And it just, you know, God bless you for standing against the tide. And again you know Dr. Lennox, we talked to and his career and kind of a similar kind of a thing where you're standing firm in your faith and that's not easy to do in Hollywood.

Kevin Sorbo (25:58):

Well, you know what I tell people to go to KevinSorbo.net, so great place to go see where I'm going. My book is out "True Strength" and my follow up book, "True Faith", which I wrote with my wife is out there as well. So KevinSorbo.net and that's a great place to go. If you want to get an autograph copy of that or any of the DVDs I got in the family friendly world and, uh, just staying busy. I just thank God to the fans out that the follow us, I was going to tell you really quick, I get stopped all the time used to be for Hercules and Andromeda. 80% time now people say, please make more movies, like Let There Be Light and God's Not Dead. So the best we can.

Brad Cooper (26:29):

And check out the newest stuff. And real quick too, you mentioned your wife and I know she has been in the business as well. I understand maybe some of your kids are as well, is that right? Or you have any, any other kids?

Kevin Sorbo (26:41):

Well, all three of my kids were in the last one, Let There Be Light. And then my son and my oldest son Braeden was in the movie, uh, um, Miracle In East Texas and he's got a couple of new movies he's just booked. They're just trying to piece together the timing right now, but he'll be shooting those. So in movie sets, they kind of fall in love with what I'm doing. So I don't blame them because they're exposed to that, but they're, they're all very talented.

Brad Cooper (27:08):

That's great! That's great. My son is also doing some films, so we'll see how that goes. I saw it was interesting in the movie , Against the Tide, that you met Dr. Lennox in the, sort of the birthplace of the Inklings with CS Lewis and Tolkien. So that, what was that like? That must have been neat to see sort of the birthplace of family faith-based films right there.

Kevin Sorbo (27:30):

To that pub and sit there, realize that they used to hang out there and talk about, uh, you know, their writings and talk about God and everything. That was pretty cool, too. Yeah.

Brad Cooper (27:41):

My son started a group called Filmlings. So it's a, it's like a take on Inklings, but for film. So he's getting into it too. So hopefully our paths will meet up. And I'm serious about that Bradley Cooper thing. If you ever, if you ever want me, let me know. I can be flexible. I don't have to have top billing. Okay?

Kevin Sorbo (27:59):

Okay. Fair enough.

Brad Cooper (28:01):

Hahaha...Kevin's Sorbo, thank you so much for your time. God bless. Thanks for everything you do.

Kevin Sorbo (28:04):

Thank you, sir. Have a great week. Appreciate it.

Kevin Sorbo (28:07):

Likewise, take care. Thank you.

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